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		<title>Comment on Must Read &#8211; &#8220;A Letter to Girls I Know&#8221; (On Modesty) by JE</title>
		<link>http://furtherthoughts.newlifesv.org/2011/08/23/must-read-a-letter-to-girls-i-know-on-modesty/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the premise here is accurate as far as it goes, to understand women&#039;s dress as a matter of men&#039;s weakness or pragmatically as a way to select a beau; it ignores the spiritual battle in the woman&#039;s heart.

The feminine temptation is to garner relational approval from men, rather than from God, by offering the physical either by exposure or implication of attitude through posture and speech.  The effect is increased because the woman able to gather this approval from men is more attractive to women as well as she achieves what they desire.  The motivation is understandable given the power of the tool and the reliability with which it obtains a favorable response, but it is an idol because it is fueled by and finds its sufficiency in man and in betrayal of God’s law.

Thus the heart of the issue of modesty is not one of covering the body but is an issue of seeking to live for God’s pleasure and approval and not that of the men and women around them.  This is a particular test of faith because of the relational way in which women understand their world.  The call is to make God’s approval all that matters.  Delight yourself also in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.

Understand the face to be a portal to the indwelling person of Christ and the body a servant to the continued knowledge of Christ both for yourself and others.  Understand the body to be a gift for powerfully drawing the husband and wife together to understand themselves relationally and physically; completing their understanding of themselves, humanity and Christ and his bride the church in a way not available otherwise.

Understand the desire to dress provocatively, sensually, fashionably or otherwise self exalting or pleasing way as idolatry; seeking the praise of men rather than the knowledge of God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the premise here is accurate as far as it goes, to understand women&#8217;s dress as a matter of men&#8217;s weakness or pragmatically as a way to select a beau; it ignores the spiritual battle in the woman&#8217;s heart.</p>
<p>The feminine temptation is to garner relational approval from men, rather than from God, by offering the physical either by exposure or implication of attitude through posture and speech.  The effect is increased because the woman able to gather this approval from men is more attractive to women as well as she achieves what they desire.  The motivation is understandable given the power of the tool and the reliability with which it obtains a favorable response, but it is an idol because it is fueled by and finds its sufficiency in man and in betrayal of God’s law.</p>
<p>Thus the heart of the issue of modesty is not one of covering the body but is an issue of seeking to live for God’s pleasure and approval and not that of the men and women around them.  This is a particular test of faith because of the relational way in which women understand their world.  The call is to make God’s approval all that matters.  Delight yourself also in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.</p>
<p>Understand the face to be a portal to the indwelling person of Christ and the body a servant to the continued knowledge of Christ both for yourself and others.  Understand the body to be a gift for powerfully drawing the husband and wife together to understand themselves relationally and physically; completing their understanding of themselves, humanity and Christ and his bride the church in a way not available otherwise.</p>
<p>Understand the desire to dress provocatively, sensually, fashionably or otherwise self exalting or pleasing way as idolatry; seeking the praise of men rather than the knowledge of God.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Good response to an embarrassing moment &#8230; by Robert</title>
		<link>http://furtherthoughts.newlifesv.org/2010/10/06/good-response-to-an-embarrassing-moment/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think anyone has ever questioned Obama&#039;s public speaking skills.  His extemporaneous one-liners are typically right on the mark with just the right delivery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone has ever questioned Obama&#8217;s public speaking skills.  His extemporaneous one-liners are typically right on the mark with just the right delivery.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to make Christianity cool &#124; Cranach: The Blog of Veith by Robert</title>
		<link>http://furtherthoughts.newlifesv.org/2010/08/17/trying-to-make-christianity-cool-cranach-the-blog-of-veith/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck Colson recently commented on Brett McCracken&#039;s WSJ article in his daily Breakpoint commentary (http://www.informz.net/pfm/archives/archive_1082395.html).  The following quote from that Breakpoint article makes a really valuable point.  The quote within the quote is from Brett McCracken&#039;s book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0xMDgyMzk1JnA9MSZ1PTAmbGk9NDU0OTY2Nw/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hipster Christianity: Where Church and Cool Collide&lt;/a&gt;,.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;http://www.informz.net/pfm/archives/archive_1082395.html&quot;&gt;
... the very nature of hipness is diametrically opposed to what the church should be about. “At its core, hip is an individual pursuit,” he notes, about how “I can set myself apart, how I can advance my standing in the word, turn heads toward me to be noticed [and] envied.”
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck Colson recently commented on Brett McCracken&#8217;s WSJ article in his daily Breakpoint commentary (<a href="http://www.informz.net/pfm/archives/archive_1082395.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.informz.net/pfm/archives/archive_1082395.html</a>).  The following quote from that Breakpoint article makes a really valuable point.  The quote within the quote is from Brett McCracken&#8217;s book <a href="http://www.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0xMDgyMzk1JnA9MSZ1PTAmbGk9NDU0OTY2Nw/index.html" rel="nofollow">Hipster Christianity: Where Church and Cool Collide</a>,.</p>
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&#8230; the very nature of hipness is diametrically opposed to what the church should be about. “At its core, hip is an individual pursuit,” he notes, about how “I can set myself apart, how I can advance my standing in the word, turn heads toward me to be noticed [and] envied.”
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		<title>Comment on Great Thoughts on Genuine Discipleship by Robert</title>
		<link>http://furtherthoughts.newlifesv.org/2010/06/10/great-thoughts-on-genuine-discipleship/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is so tempting to read that article and resonate with all of the &quot;We need...&quot; statements and then wonder or ask when someone is going to provide us with those pastors, mentors, and spiritual directors that &quot;we need&quot;.  At least, that is my initial response.  i like the way your final sentence subtly turns that around and focuses on praying for God in His grace to make us people who are able to foster such relationships, as opposed to people who are waiting for others to initiate those relationships.

I certainly don&#039;t feel like I am someone who knows how to develop that kind of relationship, but numerous promises from scripture immediately spring to mind reminding me that God&#039;s grace is sufficient, providing strength in my weakness, enabling me to do things that I &quot;can&#039;t&quot; do.

I pray that in developing authentic relationships we can learn to live in that &quot;sweet spot&quot; where we neither try to make it happen on our own effort nor just pray and wait for God to act unilaterally, but instead pray consistently for God to work in and through us and take active steps of faith to see how God answers our prayers and His promises in our lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so tempting to read that article and resonate with all of the &#8220;We need&#8230;&#8221; statements and then wonder or ask when someone is going to provide us with those pastors, mentors, and spiritual directors that &#8220;we need&#8221;.  At least, that is my initial response.  i like the way your final sentence subtly turns that around and focuses on praying for God in His grace to make us people who are able to foster such relationships, as opposed to people who are waiting for others to initiate those relationships.</p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t feel like I am someone who knows how to develop that kind of relationship, but numerous promises from scripture immediately spring to mind reminding me that God&#8217;s grace is sufficient, providing strength in my weakness, enabling me to do things that I &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221; do.</p>
<p>I pray that in developing authentic relationships we can learn to live in that &#8220;sweet spot&#8221; where we neither try to make it happen on our own effort nor just pray and wait for God to act unilaterally, but instead pray consistently for God to work in and through us and take active steps of faith to see how God answers our prayers and His promises in our lives.</p>
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